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May 1, 2009

The more often Americans go to church, the more likely they are to support the torture of suspected terrorists, according to a new survey.

What is going on here? This quote is from an article on It seems people have forgotten which kingdom they belong to.

We have lost our way when we fight more for the ideals of the Republican party instead of the kingdom of God. Is there any irony that many in the early church died from torture and now those who claim Christ belive it is justified?

“But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Do to others as you would have them do to you. Luke 6:27-31

5 Comments leave one →
  1. Nick Gill permalink
    May 1, 2009 7:43 pm

    Hey Darin,

    This discussion is also going on at and

    Christians have brought great shame on the name of the Lord with this horrible revelation. I pray that it will drive some of us to sackcloth and ashes.

  2. May 1, 2009 7:53 pm

    Thanks Nick, I will check it out.

    It is one of those throw your hands up what can we do kind of things for me. It leaves me frustrated.

  3. Jeff Davis permalink
    May 3, 2009 8:07 am

    D – I’m afraid that we’re living in a 24 world these days where answers to these kinds of questions are never easy. It’s simple to jump on the anti-torture bandwagon, but I think our nation is obligated to consider what measures can legitimately be taken to get information from prisoners who hold the lives of many others at stake. I think most of us agree that we have the right and responsibility to take prisoners in this war and interrogate them. I believe this is part of the government’s biblical mandate in Romans 13 — to deter violations of peace and justice. The confusing part for me comes when we talk about the exact kinds of acts that constitute torture. Some would say simple confinement is torture, others waterboarding, while others say it is physical and/or mental harm. I don’t have the answer, except to say that for the most part, Christians are generally supportive of the actions our government takes, especially during times of war. In our blind support of a “Christian” administration, our apathy and lack of watchfulness may have gotten the best of us. It would not have been the first time. Thank you for weighing in on a tough issue.

  4. May 3, 2009 10:27 pm

    Jeff, you bring up some interesting thoughts.

    It is interesting trying to discern God’s will when it comes to government. In 1 Peter 2:13-17 Peter instructs the church to honor the emperor and calls people to be subject to them and yet we also know from history that believers refused to renounce Jesus and call him lord and lost their life for it.

    Jesus was put on the spot about paying taxes and said give to Caesar what is Caesar what is Caesar’s and God what is God’s. I don’t think anyone who construe this idea with an endorsement of the behavior of the Caesar or the Roman government.

    If the idea of honoring the government means supporting their moves then what does one do when the wind changes and the government is now against such practices?

    I appreciate your thoughts I’m just not sure that the idea of respecting government was intended to mean we should endorse any practice that goes against what Jesus said. I can respect the government without becoming its mouthpiece no matter the side.

    Thanks again for the addition to the discussion.

  5. Jeff Davis permalink
    May 17, 2009 2:03 pm

    Fair enough, Darin. By the way, I met you a couple of months ago in Quiznos in Tulsa. I believe I was with JD Hatter at the time. Enjoy the blog. Peace.

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